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Doc and Junaid briefly discuss the significant effort and time required for business growth.

Effort and Time in Business

Junaid references Gary Vaynerchuk's philosophy of persistent effort and enduring challenges in business.

The 'Eat Shit' Mentality

Doc explains his pivot to live streaming 'Build With Me' to teach side hustle strategies, frustrated by elite business advice.

Building Businesses Live During Quarantine

Doc details how he adapted Gary V's content model for greater efficiency with a smaller team.

The Gary V Content Model 2.0

Doc highlights his ability to build businesses in an hour live, inspiring others with accessible tools and automation.

The Power of One Hour Builds

Junaid shares his admiration for Pat Flynn's consistent live streaming and information sharing.

Inspiration from Pat Flynn's Live Streams

Doc clarifies he built three businesses daily for 40 days, totaling 120 business ideas or operational businesses.

120 Businesses in 40 Days

Doc discusses discovering 'no code' communities and participating in '100 days of no code' with Max.

No Code Twitter and Max's Initiative

Doc wishes he was better at languages, aiming to speak to people's souls, not just superficially.

The Hobby of Learning Languages

Junaid and Doc discuss the time commitment for learning languages and the potential of live-streaming language study.

Time Constraints and Language Learning

Junaid references Tim Ferriss' approach to learning languages quickly by focusing on common vocabulary.

Tim Ferriss' Language Learning Formula

Doc shares an anecdote about struggling with Russian slang and formal speech, highlighting cultural linguistic differences.

Cultural Nuances in Language

Doc reveals his childhood aspirations were to be a Jedi, ninja, or mutant, never a conventional 'real job'.

Childhood Dreams: Jedi, Ninja, Mutant

Doc Williams shares his journey building businesses live online, revealing how unexpected challenges led to unexpected opportunities and his passion for empowering others.

Doc Williams recounts his pivot during COVID, moving from a traditional PR agency to live streaming "Build With Me" sessions on YouTube. Frustrated by the disconnect between elite business advice and everyday struggles, he decided to openly demonstrate side-hustle strategies by building three businesses live, 40 days straight, from one tool each night. This unfiltered approach attracted attention, including from VaynerX, and led to speaking engagements and a surge in his own course creation. The conversation also touches on Junaid's interest in languages, Doc's childhood dreams of being a Jedi or ninja, favorite movies like The Matrix and Empire Strikes Back, and his self-professed terrible

Unfiltered Transparency in Business

Rapid Business Creation

Childhood Dreams and Adult Ambitions

The Unseen Value of Pop Culture Influence

Key Idea 1

And that's what Gary keeps saying, right? You just keep doing this this eat shit. Like he just eat shit. Just keep doing it because Nice. So what's the other thing?

Gary Vaynerchuk

Uh, I've been watching, um, what's his face? Sorry. Pat Pat Flynn. Yeah, Pat. Yep, yep, yep. Yeah, he's doing he's doing his seven I think he's in day 75 now with his live streams.

Pat Flynn

so we did the Gary V content model 2.0 last year. And um, so Gary has a team. He has about 30 people and he puts out a lot of content. And me and my friend Jay, we're like, we can do it with two peopl

Gary V content model 2.0

And then I was like, from now on, I'm just going to do this show and show people I can do it. And um, yeah, it was off to the races from there. The cool is um, our good friend Tim Ferriss. I wish he w

The cool is um, our good friend Tim Ferriss. I wish he was our friend. I mean, I'm sure he's your friend. Tim Ferriss. He's got a formula on how you can learn a language really quickly by learning lik

Tim Ferriss

So I went, you know, Duolingo like two, three months straight on like, okay, I know a little bit, but I don't I don't have anybody to talk to.

Duolingo

this kid was like, he's in he's in England. He's like, hey, I'm going to put this on. And uh, I did a couple days and people were messaging me and they're like, Doc, like, you're putting out so much c

100 days of no code

I love this one character, Taskmaster, where the mutant could just emulate and see what someone was doing and then redo it. I love that. I was like, why are people not talking about Taskmaster more?

Taskmaster

Ooh. Probably. That's tough. Probably Neo, probably The Matrix. I hate to be like that. And I know everyone's going to be like, I can't believe you just said that.

The Matrix

So my favorite like go-to movie that I think I have the most like pop culture references and everything. I always love the the second act of trilogies. I've always loved them. So Empire Strikes Back h

Empire Strikes Back

TV show, most influential as a child, I would probably go with Star Trek, probably Next Generation. My favorite is probably when Sci-Fi channel came back with Battlestar Galactica for three years.

Star Trek: The Next Generation

My favorite is probably when Sci-Fi channel came back with Battlestar Galactica for three years. I I really think that was a really good run and um, yeah, that's what I would say.

Battlestar Galactica

There are a few random crazy films um that have been from my childhood. Like um Back to the Future, but also a very obscure movie called Buckaroo Banzai that my father loved, who like it was just a cr

Buckaroo Banzai

There is a movie that um, oh man, it throws me off. Harvey, it's an old movie. It's probably the 30s with Jimmy Stewart.

Harvey

And then there's something called The Ruling Class, which um, the same actor that played in Lawrence of Arabia did this other really crazy, crazy film called um, yeah, The Ruling Class.

The Ruling Class

I'm going to go with that obscure like, I've seen Uno, but like that weird Uno game that just like spits random cards out and you're like, I thought I was playing Uno, but what is this crap?

The 'Build in an Hour' Methodology

The Power of Unfiltered Content and Community

And that's what Gary keeps saying, right? You just keep doing this this eat shit.

I've been watching, um, what's his face? Sorry. Pat Pat Flynn. Oh, yeah, Pat.

so we did the Gary V content model 2.0 last year.

this kid was like, he's in he's in England. He's like, hey, I'm going to put this on.

our good friend Tim Ferriss. I wish he was our friend.

So I went, you know, Duolingo like two, three months straight on like, okay, I know a little bit.

I love this one character, Taskmaster, where the mutant could just emulate and see what someone was doing and then redo it.

Probably Neo, probably The Matrix. I hate to be like that.

So Empire Strikes Back has been my favorite.

TV show, most influential as a child, I would probably go with Star Trek, probably Next Generation.

My favorite is probably when Sci-Fi channel came back with Battlestar Galactica for three years.

also a very obscure movie called Buckaroo Banzai that my father loved.

There is a movie that um, oh man, it throws me off. Harvey.

And then there's something called The Ruling Class, which um, the same actor that played in Lawrence of Arabia did this other really crazy, crazy

I've seen Uno, but like that weird Uno game that just like spits random cards out and you're like, I thought I was playing Uno,

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  "chapterContent": "# Doc Williams: The Unfiltered Path to Digital Mastery\n\nJunaid Ahmed, host of *Hacks & Hobbies*, often seeks out guests whose paths illuminate unconventional approaches to professional success. Doc Williams, a personal problem solver and the CEO and founder of Brand Factory Inc., stands out not just for his achievements but for the candid, unfiltered spirit with which he attained them. His story is one of consistent pivots, driven by an unyielding curiosity and a practical philosophy: always find a way to make money from what you love doing.\n\n## The Winding Road from Healthcare to Digital Innovation\n\nDoc Williams’ early career was anything but a straight line toward digital marketing expertise. Despite an initial interest in technology fresh out of high school, he candidly admits, “I just turned out to be terrible at all of it.” He had grand visions of being a programmer, dabbling with C++ and early web design tools like Dreamweaver and GeoCities. Yet, these early attempts proved frustrating, leading him to a six year detour into healthcare. He became a physical therapist assistant and a massage therapist, dedicating himself to helping people in a direct, hands on way.\n\nHis return to marketing was born out of necessity, a common origin for many entrepreneurs. Upon opening his own gym, the question of marketing became critical. “Who’s going to market for me? I don’t want to pay somebody else,” he recalled, highlighting the moment he dove into the world of online promotion. This experience was his trial by fire, forcing him to master WordPress, opt ins, and various sales pages without formal training. What began as a pressing need quickly grew into a passion. He found joy in the intersection of products and psychology, recognizing that marketing is inherently about understanding and serving people. This deep seated motivation to see people succeed and feel happy remains a core driver for his work.\n\nHis path resonates with Junaid's own early explorations in web design, witnessing the shift from table based layouts to CSS. Both men share a common bond forged in the early, often clumsy, days of the internet, where self teaching was the primary mode of learning. This foundation instilled a powerful lesson: when there is a specific need, the drive to figure things out overcomes any obstacle. The internet, then as now, provided the vast library of knowledge for those willing to seek it.\n\n## The Hustle Mentality: Turning Hobbies into Value\n\nDoc Williams lives by a philosophy of perpetual motion and constant reinvention, a mindset that has led him through an astounding "47 jobs." He views each role or project as a new hobby, a chance to explore a fresh interest, always followed by the practical question: “How can I make money off of this?” This is not about greed, but about leveraging genuine enthusiasm into sustainable value creation.\n\nThis principle is exemplified by his ongoing collaboration with his long time videographer friend. From their work on a reality show to sharing office space, their association is built on mutual support and opportunistic learning. Doc recounts how his friend encouraged him to get a drone license to assist with real estate videos and maintenance for large scale projects like solar energy propellers. He would ask, "I need you to get your drone license... I'll pay for you. Just get your license." This readiness to acquire new skills, even outside his immediate purview, speaks to his flexible and entrepreneurial spirit. He shares that his videographer friend, despite his personal refusal to fly, built a successful business booking Southeast Asia trips based solely on a strong logo and good ideas. This ability to spot opportunities and then commit to exploring them, regardless of personal comfort zones, is a hallmark of Doc's approach. He summarizes this drive: “Every hobby, it’s a job, it’s fun. We’ll see what happens. And then the commonality is like, I’m going to do this anyway. We might as well try to make money.”\n\nHis wife has since encouraged him to focus his energies, leading him to concentrate on one core business with a maximum of three supporting ideas. This pragmatic discipline helps channel his boundless energy without spreading himself too thin, an idea Junaid echoes with his "butter knife" analogy: there is only so much "butter" (energy) one can spread before it thins out, and the day is over. This focus allows for deeper impact and greater long term success.\n\n## Strategic Value Creation: The "Garbage Man" Mentality\n\nDoc Williams’ approach to professional growth and securing high profile collaborations is rooted in a counterintuitive strategy: focus on what others overlook. His engagement with VaynerX, Gary Vaynerchuk’s empire, did not come from a direct pitch to Gary. Instead, he sought to add value to Gary’s brother, sensing an open door where others were crowding around the main entrance. He consistently asks, “How can I bring value? How can I do something?” This led to him live streaming at VaynerMedia in 2017 with multiple cameras, a cutting edge approach at the time. He also helped Sasha Group, a boutique agency under VaynerX, build out standard operating procedures for podcasting shows.\n\nHis core philosophy in these situations is to become indispensable. He calls it being the “garbage man.”\n\n> “I’m like, no one wants to I don’t think children dream about being the garbage man. I don’t think so. But but like, I know if I don’t have the garbage man, like I’m freaking out. I’m calling the city. I’m like, what is going on here? Yes. And and so I I try to be the garbage man of every company I go into and just like, I’m like, I’m going to be essential. I’m going to be essential where people are going to call me for things that I enjoy to do.”\n\nThis simple yet profound analogy encapsulates his strategy: identify critical, often unglamorous, needs within an organization and fill them with dedication and skill. By making himself essential in areas others neglect, he creates lasting value and earns trusted positions.\n\n## The \"Build With Me\" Movement: Unfiltered Transparency\n\nThe COVID outbreak in 2020 marked a turning point for Doc, shifting his focus from his traditional PR agency to a bold experiment in digital transparency. He grew frustrated by the perceived disconnect between elite business advice and the struggles faced by everyday people. He observed seven or eight figure earners offering generic encouragement like “we got to work together” without practical guidance, which he felt was out of touch.\n\nIn response, he decided to "screw all you people" who told him to hold back his secrets. He launched \"Build With Me,\" a live streaming YouTube show where he committed to building three businesses every night for 40 consecutive days, each from a single software as a service tool. This audacious undertaking resulted in 120 business ideas or fully functioning businesses created live, from scratch, showing every step of the process. He reinforced the authenticity of this challenge with an on screen timer, proving he was not faking anything. His goal was to demonstrate how people could side hustle and make money using readily available tools and automation.\n\nThis unfiltered generosity, giving away what others carefully guarded, attracted significant attention, including from VaynerX, who invited him to speak at their live streaming event. Companies he had admired and hoped to work with began reaching out, recognizing the unique value in his transparent approach. His past work demonstrating how he and his friend Jay could produce as much content as Gary Vaynerchuk’s 30 person team using automation and just two people further solidified his reputation as a master of efficiency. The "Build With Me" series became a testament to his belief that anyone can build a business with existing tools and a commitment to action. His honesty and willingness to show the process, rather than just the outcome, resonated deeply with an audience hungry for real world solutions.\n\n## Insights on Discipline, Passion, and Unconventional Dreams\n\nDoc Williams’ motivations are rooted in a deep love for the process, a sentiment he shares by referencing Roger Federer. He describes Federer’s daily routine of practice, family time, and more practice as simply part of his life because he loves doing it. Doc applies this to his own work:\n\n> “The stuff I do with like Vayner or AppSumo… it’s what I would do if no one was watching anyway. Like this is just I just like doing these things. That’s it.”\n\nThis internal drive means that external validation, while welcome, is not the primary fuel. His joy comes from helping people and seeing them get excited, a biofeedback loop that continually energizes him. This explains his ability to maintain consistency, a trait Junaid himself values greatly for success in podcasting and other ventures. Doc believes that **discipline beats motivation** because passion ignites action, but consistent effort sustains greatness.\n\nBeyond his professional endeavors, Doc’s personal interests reveal a desire for broader experience and skill. When asked about a hobby he wishes he had pursued, he expresses a strong desire to be fluent in many languages. His wife’s ability to quickly learn languages and appreciate the etymology of words highlights for him the richness of cultural understanding that comes with linguistic mastery. He yearns for the ability to “speak to people that I could speak to their soul and have a good conversation,” rather than just surface interactions. This reflects a deep seated curiosity about human connection, echoing his drive in marketing to understand consumer psychology.\n\nHis childhood aspirations were equally unconventional, reflecting a desire for extraordinary capabilities: “probably a Jedi or a ninja.” He wanted to be comfortable in a robe like a Jedi, or stealthy like a ninja, and above all, possess powers like a mutant. These youthful dreams speak to a lifelong admiration for self mastery, strategic thinking, and the ability to influence one's environment. His favorite movies further underscore this, with *Empire Strikes Back* and *The Matrix* topping his list. He loves the "second act of trilogies" because they focus on the deeper conflict, the character arc after the origin story, and the sustained struggle towards mastery. His choice to play Neo in *The Matrix* reflects a desire for understanding, breaking free from perceived limitations, and shaping reality through knowledge and skill.\n\nDoc Williams embodies the principle that true success comes from relentless learning, persistent experimentation, and a generous spirit. His story is a powerful reminder that by focusing on genuine curiosity, consistently adding value, and embracing unfiltered transparency, anyone can forge a path to digital mastery, creating not just businesses, but a lasting impact rooted in service and authenticity. He shows that by doing what you would do anyway, and by finding ways to serve others through that passion, all good things fall into place.

Doc Williams: From Healthcare Assistant to SaaS Expert via Digital Marketing

Probably Neo, probably The Matrix. I hate to be like that. And I know everyone's going to be like, I can't believe you just said

Hi,

How much of today's business advice is just… talk? Doc Williams felt the same frustration. That's why he decided to stop talking and start building – live, on camera, every single night.

He shares his incredible journey of live-streaming the creation of three businesses a night for 40 days, using just one tool each time. This unfiltered approach is a masterclass in action, transparency, and leveraging modern tech for rapid results.

In this episode, Doc dives into:
• His unique 'Build With Me' methodology.
• The power of showing your work and embracing challenges (inspired by Gary V).
• How childhood dreams can reveal your business superpower.

If you're ready to move from theory to action, this conversation is for you.

Listen now:
https://app.podglue.com/episode/hacks-and-hobbies/s3e45/

Talk soon,
Junaid

Hi Doc,

It was fantastic having you on Hacks & Hobbies to share your incredible journey of building businesses live. Your 'Build With Me' methodology and unfiltered transparency are truly inspiring.

I've put together a shareable package for you to share with your audience. It includes:

• A direct link to the episode
• A personalized social media graphic
• Key takeaways from our conversation

I'd be honored if you could share it with your community. Your story will undoubtedly empower many aspiring entrepreneurs.

Thank you again for your time and insights!

Best,
Junaid

Junaid Ahmed here – So glad you joined me on Hacks & Hobbies!

Hi Doc,

Hope you're having a great week!

Following up on our episode of Hacks & Hobbies, I wanted to share a few insights that are really resonating with listeners based on our conversation:

• The power of your live 'Build With Me' sessions and how they demystify entrepreneurship.
• Your connection between childhood dreams (Jedi/ninja!) and finding your unique business advantage.
• The practicality of your 'build in an hour' approach.

People are finding incredible value in your unfiltered approach. If you have a moment, I'd be grateful if you could share the episode with your network again. Every share helps bring these valuable lessons to more people.

Here's the link: https://app.podglue.com/episode/hacks-and-hobbies/s3e45/

Thanks again for being such a great guest!

Warmly,
Junaid

A quick follow-up on our Hacks & Hobbies chat + what's resonating

Hi Doc,

It was such a pleasure having you on Hacks & Hobbies. Your episode has been incredibly well-received, and I've heard so much positive feedback about your transparent approach and actionable advice.

I'm always looking for ways to collaborate and share valuable content with our audiences. I'd love to explore future possibilities – perhaps a follow-up Q&A, a mini-series diving deeper into one of your 'builds,' or even you hosting a segment on the show?

Let me know if you're open to discussing this further. In the meantime, if you have any upcoming projects or launches you'd like to share with my audience, please don't hesitate to reach out.

Best regards,
Junaid

Future collaborations & your amazing insights!

Ever wonder how to actually build a business, not just talk about it? Join us for an exclusive live event with Doc Williams, the entrepreneur who live-streamed building three businesses a night for 40 days straight.

Frustrated by theoretical advice, Doc decided to show the unfiltered process. He'll share:
• His 'Build With Me' methodology: How to create functional businesses from single tools in under an hour.
• The mindset behind relentless action and transparency.
• How childhood dreams might hold the key to your unique business advantage.

If you're an entrepreneur, creator, or aspiring founder looking for actionable insights and a dose of real-world grit, this is for you. RSVP to get your questions answered live and discover how to build your next venture with confidence.

Live Event: Building Businesses in Real Time with Doc Williams

What if you could build a business in just one hour? Doc Williams, a master of rapid creation, joins Junaid Ahmed on Hacks & Hobbies to share his incredible journey.

Frustrated by disconnects in business advice, Doc decided to live-stream his process, building three businesses nightly for 40 days straight, each from a single tool. This radical transparency demystifies entrepreneurship and empowers aspiring founders.

In this episode, Doc reveals:

• His 'Build With Me' methodology and how to leverage modern tools for rapid business creation.
• The influence of Gary Vaynerchuk's 'eat shit' mentality on his approach.
• How childhood dreams of being a Jedi or ninja might hold the secret to your unique business advantage.
• The surprising connection between pop culture, language learning, and strategic thinking.

If you're looking for actionable strategies, unfiltered insights, and inspiration to take immediate action, this episode is for you.

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Building Businesses LIVE: Doc Williams on 1-Hour Creations & Unfiltered Growth

And it got me really irritated. I'm like, you're not teaching people. So I was like, you know what, for all these years, people always

I'm going to build three businesses every single night from one tool. And I'm going to show you live and I'm going to build it

I can build this thing. And so I built it in an hour. And I was like, and I I I said and I was

So you built 40 different applications. 40 different things. Um, 40 times three, so 120.

probably a Jedi or a ninja. Like I just can't remember a time when I didn't want to be both of those things.

I wish I knew like 15 languages, honestly. I and not only just like getting by, I wish I wish I could speak to people

So my favorite like go-to movie that I think I have the most like pop culture references and everything. I always love the the second

In this episode, we get to speak with doc Williams. He is a personal problem solver and the CEO and founder at brand factory Inc. He helps influencers and brands leverage their content to make an impact in their industry. He delivers the best results by working with brands, but a specific service or product, but need to figure out how to create a story for the launch. In this process. He combines thorough market research, custom research, offers creation, online sales funnel building, paid and organic traffic strategies to build a complete blueprint for our revamped product launch. A secret sauce focuses on your unfair advantage, your unique skill, story, or experience. They'll help you create the product you and your customers will love. I'm so excited to bring him to the podcast and discover the high-quality services he could offer. Doc, thank you so much for coming on to the podcast.

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Hack to Take Away


  How he delivers the best results by working with brands, but a specific service or product, and how to create a story for the launch.


  Find out how he ended up in digital marketing.


  He’s always been interested in products and psychology, which are all marketing and he loves trying to help people and see them get excited.


  Find out what are the chances of succeeding.


  A secret sauce focuses on your unfair advantage, your unique skill, story, or experience.


  How he combines thorough market research, custom research, offers creation, online sales funnel building, paid and organic traffic strategies to build a complete blueprint for a revamped product launch.


  He was always interested in creating really quick things like minimal viable products and seeing if things were going to work.



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