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How a Father–Daughter Duo Is Redefining Revenue Intelligence With Human-Centered Agentic AI (Anoushka Ram Kumar & Ram Gunnison)

Junaid Ahmed

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S8E41August 25, 2026

How a Father–Daughter Duo Is Redefining Revenue Intelligence With Human-Centered Agentic AI (Anoushka Ram Kumar & Ram Gunnison)

5 Big Takeaways Responsible AI = augmentation, not replacement – Kaboom’s core principle is simple: keep a human in the loop and use AI to make people superhuman, not obsolete. Trust starts with security, not slogans – SOC 2, audits, and enterprise-grade security aren’t “nice to have”; they are table stakes for serious AI in revenue teams. Most AI pilots fail on adoption, not ideas – Without organizational readiness, internal champions, and patience, even the best AI never gets past the shiny demo stage. Bring AI to where humans live – Adoption skyrockets when AI lives inside existing workflows (email, WhatsApp, microsites), instead of forcing people to “go to the AI.” Relationships will always stay human – AI should handle the follow-ups, research, and repetition so you can focus on what actually moves the needle: real human relationships.   Episode Timestamps [00:01:19] What “Responsible AI” Actually Means at Kaboom Anoushka breaks down their one-sentence definition of responsible AI—and why a human-in-the-loop is non-negotiable. [00:02:54] Security at the Gate: How Enterprises Decide Who to Trust Ram explains why security and data privacy are day one requirements and how Kaboom built an “uncompromising” security culture. [00:06:24] The AI Trust Checklist for CIOs & Revenue Leaders Organizational readiness, internal champions, data access, and why “closed-door” AI makes your system artificially dumb. [00:09:56] Meeting People Where They Are: The Shortcut You Can’t Take Anoushka on why Kaboom refuses to ignore existing workflows—even if it slows the deal—and how that earns real trust. [00:17:52] Live Exercise: Turning a Conference Attendee List into Real Meetings A step-by-step walk-through of Kaboom’s event intelligence product and how it prioritizes who you should meet now. [00:20:35] From Business Card Graveyard to Revenue Engine Junaid shares his embarrassing stack of untouched cards—and Ram shows how AI can triage, score, and draft follow-ups on autopilot. [00:22:05] What Stays Human Forever—and What AI Should Own Ram and Junaid draw the line: relationships, deals, and meaning vs. the mundane tasks AI should quietly automate in the background. [00:24:47] Final Advice: Trust, Revenue, and the Future of PRM One-sentence guidance for founders and revenue teams on trust, authenticity, and relationship-first growth in the AI era. Guest Links Kaboom AI Website: Kaboom AI (search “Kaboom AI event intelligence & revenue workflows”) LinkedIn: Kaboom AI (search “Kaboom AI” on LinkedIn) Anoushka – Co-founder, Kaboom AI LinkedIn: Search “Anoushka Kaboom AI” on LinkedIn Ram – Co-founder, Kaboom AI LinkedIn: Search “Ram Kaboom AI” on LinkedIn Listener Homework (From the Episode) Pick one workflow to simplify – events, prospect research, account planning, or follow-ups. Define the human moments that must always stay human in that workflow. Use the AI trust checklist when choosing tools: Boundaries Traceability Auditability Adoption 🎙 Wanna be a guest? Apply on PodMatch: https://www.podmatch.com/member/hacksandhobbies📖 Home Studio resources: https://homestudiobook.com🔗 LI: https://linkedin.com/in/superjunaid Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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